Congressional Hearings on Tridactyls

This page contains links to the congressional hearings and supporting material related to the tridactyls.


September Hearing (September 13, 2023)

September Hearing (September 13, 2023)

The first public hearing in Mexico's Congress on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), where Jaime Maussan presented two mummified specimens claimed to be non-human, found near the Nazca Lines in Peru. Jaime Maussan presents the discovery of the Tridactyls named Clara and Mauricio in the Mexican Congress.

This video shows the September 2023 congressional hearing in Mexico, presented in Spanish, regarding the tridactyls. Note: English viewers, please turn on closed captions (CC) for subtitles.


Addressing Ryan Graves’ Tweet: Context and Evidence

Before the congressional hearing, Ryan Graves was briefed that Non-Human Biologics (Tridactyls) would be presented to Mexican citizens. Specifically, he was informed that Dr. Jose Zalce, a high-ranking medical professional and Former Director of the Institute of Health Sciences Research of the Ministry of the Navy, would testify about the discovery after being involved for 6 years in studying the tridactyl corpses.


During the meeting, Ryan was shown a QR code that linked to evidence of the studies conducted on the tridactyl corpses, which were to be presented at the Mexican hearing. The QR code directed him to a video summarizing the key findings. This is the video he was shown:

Context of Ryan Graves’ Tweet

We are frequently asked about Ryan Graves’ infamous tweet from September 13, 2023, where he expressed disappointment with the demonstration at the Mexican hearing, describing it as a step backward for the UAP issue. We deeply respect Ryan’s perspective, rooted in his experience as a pilot and his dedication to aerospace safety, national security, and science. However, we would like to clarify that, due to the sensitive and complex nature of the evidence presented, and a delay in his flight, Ryan was informed about the discovery and Dr. Jose Zalce’s testimony on the day of the hearing. This information was not available to him prior to his arrival, which may have influenced his perception.

Ryan Graves tweet following the September 13, 2023 Mexican congressional hearing

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Press Conference (September 14, 2023)

Press conference the day after the hearing in Mexico City with the tridactyl corpses present. Note: English viewers, please turn on closed captions (CC) for subtitles.


Live Tomographies of Clara and Mauricio

Live tomographies of Clara and Mauricio conducted following the hearing. Note: English viewers, please turn on closed captions (CC) for subtitles.


November Hearing (November 7, 2023)

November Hearing (November 7, 2023)

The second public hearing in Mexico's Congress, focused on the "Nazca Mummies". Experts from the San Luis Gonzaga University of Ica presented study results, affirming the mummies' authenticity.

This video shows the November 2023 congressional hearing in Mexico, presented in English, regarding the tridactyls.


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Congressional Hearings in Peru on Tridactyls


November Hearing (November 19, 2018) - Peru

In this hearing, convened by Congressman Armando Villanueva Mercado, a bill was discussed to declare the investigation of the Nazca humanoid mummies a matter of historical and cultural interest. Held on November 19, 2018, this working meeting addressed Bill 3112 CR2017, bringing together experts and officials to evaluate the significance of these findings. Evidence from scientific research, including analyses of the remains and their archaeological context, was presented to underscore their potential importance to Peruvian heritage. The discussion aimed to emphasize the need for preservation and further study of these extraordinary discoveries.

Video of the November 19, 2018 hearing on Bill 3112 CR2017. Note: Turn on captions (CC) for English subtitles.

November Hearing (November 9, 2024) - Peru

In this hearing, discussions took place regarding potentially allowing the tridactyls to be studied in the United States by Dr. McDowell, American scientists, and a team of Peruvian scientists. During the hearing, there was a presentation of the skeptics' side and the researchers of the tridactyls showcasing their evidence.

This video shows the November 2024 congressional hearing in Peru, presented in English, regarding the tridactyls.


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